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The Sun Is by Lilithnanhart The Sun Is by Lilithnanhart
FOR THOSE WHO ASK QUESTIONS WITHOUT READING ARTIST'S COMMENTS- YES, I AM CONTINUING THIS. THE COMIC IS CALLED VAST.

YOU START READING HERE--> [link] YOU'RE WELCOME.


Full Title: The Sun is a Mass of Incandescent Gas
“The winners are the ones who get to write the history books....”

Dear Princess Celestia,
I hate drawing/colouring your hair. SO MUCH.
Your (somewhat) faithful fan, Me.

Because I have the hardest time trying to foal myself into believing a moon can withstand the sun, let alone magical pony interpretations of it. That, and I love the theories of Princess Celestia being a tyrant and unable to understand friendship given her position as a literal god for hundreds of years (not that I don't enjoy the calm/giving leader side as well, episode 26 ftw).

I don't think of her as evil. In my personal head canon I like the idea that she just lost her ability to emphasize with mortals. The sun is large and very powerful, best to only have dealings from afar. The moon weaker, closer to our planet and protects us from meteors and other harm from space.


EDIT HOLY CRAP SO MANY FAVES+COMMENTS :faint: Since I drew/wrote this with vague in mind, it's not my place to tell you what to think, but I will tell you what I was aiming for, which is:

:iconalfalfamonster2plz:1) Celestia is not evil (for this comic's propose anyways XD). Her powers have become what we are to ants. Huge, powerful, unrelatable from either side. So no, she's not a 'demon' (in western or eastern sense) nor is she a dragon (too weak to match to her strength). While those who are not used to dealing with fangs and claws can make for a frightening appearance, this shouldn't be what makes 'evil'.

:iconlunamadplz: 2)She is still transforming. Her pony body cannot handle her powers and is transforming to a more stable state where she can handle it. Think Otomo's Akira.

:iconsishoof: 3)Celestia is holding/carrying Twilight, not crushing her. It wasn't my intention, but since somepony brought it up, I realize it could look very much like that as well. Twilight's face was suppose to be of one shocked/terrified from the events of before and what is unfolding in front of her.

:iconcelestiaorlyplz:4)If Celestia wanted Twilight dead this comic would be a whole lot shorter. Because even if I was going to play the "evil" card, I think Celestia's too genre savvy to dare risk a chance with a pony that clearly has amazing powers herself.


FOR THOSE WHO NEED BACKSTORY, Here is a taste of my WIP story idea (please keep in mind a lot of this is probably going to change in the official comic):

Celestia is a pony with god powers, originally being represented by the fact she had the qualities of all pony-kind. However, in also taking the role of her sister when she was banished to the moon, she had to use her powers 24-7. Probably unbeknownst to her, her powers grew.

Going with the theory that she wanted her sister back, but cannot use the Elements of Harmony to save her due to her increasingly being able to connect with her subjects on a more personal level (this blame goes to both sides, they worship her and her old memories of being a normal pony fading) she stages her disappearance (for all we know she is the one who wrote those legends [link] ).

Nightmare Moon is released, assuming the spell that locked her their only lasted as long as Celestia had power (As if she was constantly using her energy, as suppose to have formed a timed spell instead). So at that moment she thought Celestia was powerless.

Then using another favorite theory of mine, Twi and the others managed to destroy the dark mass (of what, Aku?) that was possessing Luna (the reason Celestia couldn't use the Elements of Harmony to get rid of it before was because one of the elements was Luna herself).

When her sister returned and her powers no longer constantly used, all of this unused energy started building up. Her original form can't handle it, so it tries to transform into something that can.

In trying to balance this, she tries to use her powers against herself to try to keep her 'original' form. Using yet another favorite theory of mine, She has Twilight (and perhaps other lesser students) write her reports on friendship, to help her relate and remember what it was like before she was a god.

But in the end, it doesn't work. Close subjects and others start seeing sides of her they cannot understand. Like how quite a few of you guys said how 'evil' she looks (fangs are cute guys, really), the same holds for the ponies who start thinking she is either possessed by evil or is evil.

Playing with the idea that many ponies are racist (not intentionally so) they would not accept her as ruler if they did not think she was a pony (which is on it's basics was already hypocritical, but work with me here). A rebellion of sorts starts. A very chaotic one at that as many ponies cannot decide where they stand (Celestia is evil, Celestia is not evil but possessed, She is good, She is a monster, etc).

Celestia cannot process nor handle it. Ordering others who are not faithful like Twilight now gives the impression of a threat and worse. Ponies attack her, her powers grandeur than what she herself realizes, easily overwhelms them. It only gets messier from there.

Twilight, as faithful as always, keeps to her mentors side while trying to keep the peace. Luna, as sister to Celestia must hide and behind the scenes because those against Celestia think of her as a 'monster' like Celestia (that, and all of the paranoia fuel from the legends as well). However, unbeknownst to her there is another group who is planning to have Luna take the 'crown' as a true queen...


:icondiscordumadplz: EDIT EDIT:
Concept cover: [link] The comic will be called Vast.

While the story is still very WIP, I know I will need a lot of OCs to represent the reaction of Equestria and the separate adventures of the girls. So if you would like your OC to have a crazy adventure and perhaps die horribly, please share here: [link] !! :eager:

Also ~clu2415 would like to remind that pouring damages books. Sorry for the error! XP

:iconreallylikehermaneplz: MORE EDITS: :excited:
~DotRook drew their take of my Celestia god (and her take on Luna)! [link]
~Fangirl-45 Has a mini fanfiction version of this comic! [link]
*Luigi-Mario Wrote their take on the aftermath: [link]
Can somepony tell me who drew this? [link]
~BrutalityInc [link] Please tell me you write for a living.

Characters © HasBRO + Lauren Faust
Comic © Lilithnanhart
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:iconhouston12:
Houston12 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014
I DO understand what you're trying to do here. The ruler removed from empathy and such. While I do not personally enjoy this headcanon, your depiction is rather interesting. On another note, while do understand what you're trying to get across, its really hard to see, in this image at least, anything but a monstrous or at least threatening being. The visuals, rather sudden transformations, the wording, and Twilight's expression all contribute quite a bit to it. The explanation you gave helped sort out quite a few things though. I'll keep an eye on this, its peeked my interest.
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:iconmynameisblupyro:
...yesCoffee Break.
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:iconvirtaashi:
VirTaAshi Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014
Since Twilight is now an Alicorn, Imagine the possibilities.
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bruiser128 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Well from what I can tell I can say this with certainty. To even THINK about taking on this Uber powered Celestia
you need to be wield the power of something like this dc.wikia.com/wiki/Ion_(New_Ear…
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weeya1 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014
I love your art design!!!!!

(And it is very scary)

And cool!
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Wolfboy183 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
SCARY
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:iconkureiogen:
Kureiogen Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Holy ponytail! o.o
That`s intense.
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Dragonsrose19 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
We all knew she was secretly evil
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:iconlordoffantasy:
Lordoffantasy Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
only problem with this idea is that............ well, the sun is NOT like our sun in mlp. it is clearly something far smaller and around the same size as the moon.
not to metnion her power does not have to be equivalent to the sun, for she is NOT the sun, only it regent. the sun does not need celestia and celestia, likely, does not need to sun to be powerful.
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HatiChantheWolfHog Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013
By that logic Luna would be more powerful because she raises the stars as well as the moon.
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:iconlazerbem:
lazerbem Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
Discord I think could still handle her. Celestia would've had no reason to hold back against him yet he swatter her like a fly with no effort and then took control of the Sun like it was nothing
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Chaos51268 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
HOLY CRAP THAT'S TERRIFYING!
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:iconshadowpaint-lisam:
ShadowPaint-LisaM Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That smile when she admits there wasn't a power struggle...... That smile is creepy as all hell.... Nice job regardless.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you. ^^
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:iconhunhplz:
hunhplz Featured By Owner May 17, 2013
I for one would love to see Celestia in this form hugging her little student... Maybe a lick from her tongue can heal a wound instantly... :meow:
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StGeorge7903 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014
I guess I would kind of like to see that, too. (Just the licking thing, though. From the description, Celestia seems majorly OP as is, and it's only gonna get worse.)

Like:

After Celestia sees Twilight freaking out, she tries to get Twilight to calm down by licking her. (A pony of Celestia's stature probably wouldn't be able to give a reasonable hug, so...)

And then Twilight gets even more freaked out. ("Oh, please, no, no...not like this.") Naturally, Celestia just stops and puts Twilight down.

Cue guards.

"Guards! Take Twilight to a medic! NOW!"

Cue more screaming.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And then multiple limbs grow where the wound was. 8D
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:iconhunhplz:
hunhplz Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
Ooooooh... I'd love to see that... >:3
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CatsTuxedo Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have to say, the idea of the Princesses being able to turn into dragons is quite appealing ;)
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VulpineSnow Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013
... Some strange part of me wants to see Cosmic-Horror!Celestia comforting Twilight even in this form, not just holding her in her mane. :lol: I'm weird, I know.
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MoppyPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013
A lot of you are probably thinking: "Brutal?" "MLP?" "What's Brutal MLP?"

THIS IS BRUTAL MLP!
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wouldn't call this brutal, but as long as you're having fun I have no complaints. ^^
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MoppyPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's my one true love. :iconiloveyouplz:
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:iconclu2415:
clu2415 Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013
*pores over books. Pouring over books ruins them. Poring over books is to study them intently.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is quite true.
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:iconclu2415:
clu2415 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
I had meant to also mention that this comic is really cool, but I hit reply too soon. :)
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha, the critic inside needs to make sure the correction is made! :XD:

Thank you. Glad the silly error didn't ruin it for you.
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yefta03 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Resident pony 7 last boss
in mission : The truth Behind friendship
Mission objective : kill celestia
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:icondarkdoomer:
darkdoomer Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
you are my little dino~
don't you know you're my very best preeeyyy !
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:iconlordomegaz:
LordOmegaZ Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013   Digital Artist
so celestia still cares for her loyal student? ;3
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I certainly like thinking so! XD
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:iconlordomegaz:
LordOmegaZ Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013   Digital Artist
me too :3

twilight: a..are you going to devour me princess? D: *still bleeding*
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AutumnMiracles Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree with you, i dont get how people think that Celestia is "evil", for example, in the canterlot wedding episode, she said "I will protect my subjects, from you!"
HOW is that evil??

(i LOVE your concept, by the way, its very detailed, and me, being a fan of mythology, loves the idea! cant wait to see more of it :))
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Outside of this comic, I can understand why people like teasing the idea of a corrupt Celestia. After all, we hardly know her. What made Luna and herself the way they are complete mysteries aside from little historic blips here and there every season. They are ripe to any speculation the fandom can come up with. What miffed me was how many people were assuming antagonist in this comic based only on how sharp her teeth were becoming. >3<

(Thank you very much! For the compliment, faves and watch! I hope the story will be good enough to make up for the lousy updates!)
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AutumnMiracles Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My theory is that the writers leave their background open like that, so the bronies can come up with their own stories and comics ^^ just like you are doing. Those writers really do love us :XD:
And i love your idea about how Celestia has all this power that she cant handle, never seen anything like it! Its very unique, and i bet its going to be one of the best stories out there :)
(in my opinion, it already is :D theres no need to thank me ^^)
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's not theory, that's basic 101 story balance. XD Leaving things open is always the safest way to play when it comes to stories that have large staff with restrictions. Leads to less arguments internally and with publishers. And with the internet helping the fandoms get closer to the creators it also safer in that regard to avoid flame wars. Even with that in mind, the FiM team and Hasbro are miracle workers still~ ==

I'm a little baffled that no one has tried this yet! But original ideas only go so far, it's in the delivery if I manage to make this work or not. (Yes there is, thank you!)
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AutumnMiracles Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol, then my theory is good :XD:
but still, i hope there is a episode to where we see how our Princesses came to be. I also hope that Lauren Faust will come back...

same here! i sure hope you do, because im really interested in this storyline.
(was about to say plot, but thought twice about it :XD:)
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's more than good, I'm quite sure it's fact. XD

I'm torn with seeing one. I'd love to know what they thought, and fear just how bad my comic will look afterward. I know it's already way off due to what Hasbro thinks kids can take versus myself, but I love clinging to 'maybes'. otz

She trusts the staff she left behind so I'm content... for now. XD Mostly I hope that more animators, staff and companies alike see what she has done and take it to heart. Stop trying to segregate fun stories by age and gender... and their subject matter!

I've finished page 16! But I don't want to post it until I've cleaned up 17. 16 is an ugly page and I don't want people staring at that one for too long. ;;
(Isn't slang downright charming sometimes?) ;) :XD:
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AutumnMiracles Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree, i dont think they (the kids who watch it) would understand your theory :XD: too much science to it and big words :XD:

Yeah, she trusted them enough to create a THIRD Alicorn behind her back. :XD: but other than that little fault, i think they're a wonderful staff, the writers, the animators, everybody. :) they are litterally breaking all the stereotypes, that guys cant watch a "show for little girls", smart people dont have to be nerds, and people like rarity dont have to be like snobs. (theres more, but i dont feel like naming them all :XD:)

:iconfluttershyyayplz: yay! cant wait for them to be posted :) im sure its not that ugly ^^ it has to be better than anything i could come up with :XD:
(yeah :XD:)
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Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
[link] << You need to meet more kids. When they aren't treated like thin ice they can grasp onto anything. Two cousins of mine, elementary age know the differences of medium adaptations (comics, books, games, movies to shows), recognizing cheesy good vs tastelessly bad, etc. They can grab onto science just fine. It's all in the delivery of the teacher.

-Uuuhh, behind her back? She helped make Cadence, though she wasn't an alicorn at the time, if that is what you meant. XP
-Well, the sexist stereotype was broken by us bronies, not the writers (they just made it easier). ^^
-Nerd, overly intellectual, obsessive, and/or socially impaired. So anyone can be depending on the social circle (sorry, I'm a tad lost at what you were trying to say there).

I am sad Rarity isn't more popular on DA... and then I remembered that art world social stigma because she's in fashion. EVERYONE would have been more sympathetic to her perfectionist attitude if she were a painter, but nooooo. Q3Q

Pleeeeease don't say that. I don't know what sort of art feel/style goals you have for yourself, but I think I'm safe to say they are different from mine. Not a fair comparison to say "anything I can come up with". Maybe you won't think the page is bad, but I'm done. I've been staring at it for weeks. All I can see are flaws by this point. otz
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:iconpikku-miku:
Pikku-Miku Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Someone just made something awesome
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you. ^^
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SkyeWare Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
I see what you did there in the full title.
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:iconallen-mikk:
allen-mikk Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Solar Flare, a very good scientific point.

But this is magic bro, science can take a back seat to mysticism.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But magic is only unexplained phenomena, isn't it? Rules and regulations that we just can't understand at this point. With a show that teaches others about friendship, a little fun science here and there can't be too bad. ==
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:iconallen-mikk:
allen-mikk Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
YES, science would be nice.

now justify how Celestia transformed into a god-dragon.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Please read artist's comments for that answer. ;)
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:iconallen-mikk:
allen-mikk Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I did, it said she was still transforming, and while it did say she wasn't transforming into a god dragon thing, that's what it looks like, so that's what I'll call it.
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and I'm too tiered to read the relatively brief description explaining why she looks like something out of a twisted mirror.
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:iconlilithnanhart:
Lilithnanhart Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aw, you should read more mythology! ^^ Also, thank you for actually reading.

Think of how certain dying stars become unstable. Can't control the energy it releases either turning into brown dwarfs or black holes. At this point you can say this is far more symbolic than any literal take, but that was what I thought of when I originally started watching the show.

As for this story itself I have been doing some heavy rewriting for VAST so not everything applies as it once did.
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